in the wake of this election, you have to go back to 1988 to find a republican president who was elected by anything other than a squeaker, that probably tells something that i think the electorate, exactly as you are saying, maybe is beginning to shift. >> woodruff: but again, we've had moments in history when one party or another seemed to hit a bend in the road, when when popular opinion changed. michael, as you look at this year, i mean how much of it was the president, do you think? and how much maybe, and again i'm asking you to look way into the future, but how much could it be the kinds of things that richard was just describing? >> i think it is-- that's what a leader does. i mean he recognized the fact that the latino vote in this country is getting much, much bigger in a very important way. he brought out a lot of voters who oftentimes do not vote. and that you can expect to happen presumably in 2016. so the result is that the chances for a democrat versus a republican for all sorts of reasons in 2016 could be very different from what they were four years ago. >> woodruff: mic